0.01″ Of Freezing Rain Creates Travel Problems This Morning

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Good morning bloggers,

It wasn’t much precipitation, only 0.01″, and yet it has caused some big travel issues early this morning. The freezing drizzle is ending, but the temperatures are falling.  Here is the forecast from KSHB.com:

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There is another little system coming our way tonight into Wednesday.  Look at this statistic that Sunny The Weather Dog is showing us:

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This is just almost too hard to believe.  It has precipitated at least a trace of rain or snow 38 out of the 58 days so far in 2019!  The next significant amount of precipitation is likely on Sunday.  There will be some smaller chances between now and Sunday, and then KC is a target for a few inches of snow this weekend.

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This map above is from the European Model.  Here are the snow outputs from some of the models for Sunday:

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The European Model has now had four model runs in a row with at least 3 to 4 inches of snow in Kansas City this weekend.  It has been the most consistent and has had the highest amounts.  The snow ratios will be in the 15 to 1 range. So, if there is only 0.20″ liquid, it would likely lead to 3″ of snow.  Why are the ratios likely to be in the 15 to 1 range?  Because the strongest blast of Arctic air is likely later this weekend. Take a look at these forecast temperatures:

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This European Model forecast shows way below zero temperatures.  This may be a bit strong, and at the same time if there is a snowpack in place, these temperatures are possible.

Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day reading the Action Weather Blog featuring Weather2020 and the LRC. Have a great day! And, go to the Weather2020 blog to join in the conversation as this wild weather pattern continues.

Gary

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Josh
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So many people on here have Modelitis, and yes it is hard to get below 0 in early March, but the cold air is in place now. We’re down to 12 this morning, yesterday and today’s highs are in the upper 10’s to low 20’s. There’s a deep snowpack to the north and west. It looks almost guaranteed that we are going to go below zero. There’s not 1 forecast I have saw that keeps us above 0 lol.

Terry
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Terry

The storm low is why off the West Coast still is no way of knowing what’s gonna happen! Yet !

f00dl3
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f00dl3

Sorta. By this time models and the LRC are in fairly good agreement on track. The swath of heaviest snow will be in KC. The question is how much snow and how warm will it be. All times this storm has came through before it was a rain changing to snow scenario. So the NAM, I would lean on the temperature profiles being closer to 30 at the onset of snow. Plus, come on – March sun angle it’s hard to get below 0 less -10 F like some models showed the other day in March even with snow.

ClassyCat
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ClassyCat

Yes f00dl3, but world of difference in March 2-3 sun angle than March 30. A lot of transition happens in March and I don’t believe you can throw a general sun angle statement out there without some context.

f00dl3
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f00dl3

NAM isn’t budging on the warmth and it’s also giving us max 4″ in KC now. I would be inclined to believe the GFS/FV3/CMC/Euro – but Euro also has a bit of concern as it splits the snow around KC with heavier swaths south and east, north and west.

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EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

NAM doesn’t reach the end of the storm yet?

Also: all the models have more to the south. AGAIN.

WeathermanKumke
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WeathermanKumke

Very good job Lezak. LRC is exactly what you continue to say it is

jcling64056
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jcling64056

pretty impressive that just about every single weather model has a widespread 8+” snowfall for KC…..will be interesting to see how the models trend, whether it be up or down with totals

Matt
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Matt

I feel like this picture makes it looks like Kansas is about to get…..(insert 4 letter word)…..

P.s. Gary can you please title the blog tomorrow “Just the tip”?

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EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

Cleaner interpretation: it looks vaguely like the storm has a fist and is punching through Kansas into Missouri. Lol.

AlexPickman
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AlexPickman

FV3 looks really reminiscent of what happened with the Jan 11/12 snowstorm.

EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

0z FV3 amplifies the totals even more! The arrangement of where the highest totals are looks extremely similar to the January 11-12 storm too (highest ENE of Columbia).
0z GFS gives the metro a widespread 7-8″ (with more to the south, typical, I’m going to be rolling my eyes at this for years)
0z NAM doesn’t reach the end of the storm, but it looks pretty substantial.

Waiting on the CMC to arrive now.

jcling64056
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jcling64056
EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

Wow, imagine if that one area over Emporia shifts?

jcling64056
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jcling64056

WOW, latest GFS and FV3-GFS both have a significant snowstorm for KC
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2019022800&fh=90&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_c&p=snku_acc&m=gfs_fv3

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KC BBQ
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KC BBQ

Any chance of over night or early morning precipitation for the metro?

Alexander
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Alexander

Gary, we had our first baby today, a boy who we haven’t named yet. Was wondering if you had any good weather/ice/snow names for us

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

lol…you are going to name your baby after a weather word? This should be interesting.

Alexander
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Alexander

I was thinking Lezak

Ross (N. Overland Park)
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Ross (N. Overland Park)

Congrats!

Kadens Mom
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Kadens Mom

Kaden is a nice name

JoeK
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JoeK

Alexander,

Congrats on the new son. Not sure you will find a reasonable name from weather, but Jet ( as in jet stream) seems to be the only fit. My son has a friend with that name.

Zcfloyd
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Zcfloyd

Graupel. Boom.

Alexander
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Alexander

Beautiful Zcfloyd

39th&Blue
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39th&Blue

Had a friend in grade school named Sky.

SnowBadger
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Sven!

Vernon T. Taggert
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Vernon T. Taggert

Stormy Day or Thunder Devlin

JoeK
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JoeK

The models are developing consistency as anticipated, and much like they did in the previous cycles. It is my opinion that the models may get twisted up tomorrow and/or Friday only to refocus again 24-48 hours from the event. I know it is difficult to not get wrapped up in every model data shift, but try and take history into account. Our region should experience a significant impact from this system. My observations are born from only one model, the LRC. I use the models to look for trends and dynamics. My thoughts regarding snow amounts are 4-8 inches and… Read more »

Three7s
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Three7s

Yeah, I look forward to this snowstorm because I love watching the snow fall, but ‘m definitely ready for spring and thunderstorms after this.

someweatherdude
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someweatherdude

00z NAM looks good for snow. I don’t recall seeing the models all in such good agreement 84 hours out. Kiss of death? comment image

f00dl3
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f00dl3

Lower snow ratios due to warmer temps but still 6-8″ implied. Also, if you read between the lines the NAM having the most north track shows 6-8″ in Nebraska as well. If the NAM shifts south we are still in the 5-9″ range. The only way we don’t get 3″ out of this is if it doesn’t spin up – because the furthest north low position gives us 5-7″, and the southern solutions give us 4-7″. But still probably a Winter Weather Advisory level storm as we won’t have the intense winds. GFS with the low well south has max… Read more »

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

Winds dont determine if its a http://WWW…its more on the snow amounts or snow/ice combined amounts.

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

so you are saying we are more likely than not to get six inches..I like it

Dale
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Gary, Is it possible for you to post on here more than just once a day? I mean, with all the attention given to the coming systems it seems that once in the morning is not adequate.

Craig
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Craig

Gary, did you swap shifts with Gerard today?
He takes today and you take his Saturday or Sunday so that you can cover the snowstorm?

Emaw
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Emaw

With all due respect what’s there to cover, It’s probably going to snow this weekend and the vast majority of people are sick of winter because it sucks?

Mr. Pete
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Mr. Pete

Why such a downer?

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

big questions about how much…a big potential snow storm is a lot to track…dont get that part of your comment.

Royal1
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Royal1

Make sure to report your totals!

MattinLV
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MattinLV

I really would enjoy a two week dry out with 50s and sun every day. There is so much moisture locked up in the ground as most of you know. It feels like we are going to go from snow to storms and heavy rains this spring.

The positive is the trees and vegetation will bloom very well once the temps warm up.

Jason
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Jason

I don’t mind 6” of snow when I know a few days later it will be 50 degrees and sunny. This hasn’t been the case this year and I don’t like it.

f00dl3
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f00dl3

I would lean 5-9″ for KC. These storms love weekends. Every significant storm we have had this season except the 4″ one a few weeks ago happened on a weekend if I recall.

EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

The 2018-2019 WW rule: Weekends and Wednesdays.

Kaden (Liberty Missouri)
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Kaden (Liberty Missouri)

you’re not far off

Skippydoodah
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Skippydoodah

i work weekends at a hospital. i can certainly attest to this and I am not amused!

AlexPickman
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AlexPickman

If I get at least 2.2” of snow Sat night/Sunday, then I will break the 40” mark for the season. Bring it on!! It’s been a while since we’ve had a 40+ inch Winter in northwest MO. Stewartsville, MO here, btw

Glenn
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Glenn

Saw one model that was close to 10 inches Saturday night Sunday morning

SnowCommander
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SnowCommander
ClassyCat
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ClassyCat

South OP……I need about 7-8 to get to 40. Hopefully, MCI hits 30 this season.

thetophat
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thetophat

Beware what you wish for you may get it…………………..this is going to continue for likely the entire what will become all-time historic March and maybe well beyond. My new guess: First snow October 14 2018. Last snow May 3 2019.

Stl78(winon,mn)
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Stl78(winon,mn)

Solar minimum believer?

Adam
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Adam

I am.

Blue Flash
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Blue Flash

Maunder minimum. Get used to it.

EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

Relax. This isn’t March 1960. (Yet).

But: Last snow April 28 maybe? LRC = October 14…

f00dl3
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f00dl3

What really blows the mind is if it is 8F-12F when it snows Saturday/Sunday when this storm comes around Apr. 28 we could have a 3-6″ snow rofl.

EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

April 28 is the October 14 part of the cycle. Not the part we’re in right now. That’s why it seems to be the best candidate for a possible very-late-season snow.

Blue Flash
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Blue Flash

High Friday 41 per KSHB. 30 per this blog. Which is correct?

Stl78(winon,mn)
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Stl78(winon,mn)

Today is the first time I’ve ever had to rake my roof. What really sucks about that is after u rake your roof, u then have another 2 to 3 ft of snow to clear from your driveway/walkway. It’s safe to say I’m over the snow. I hope every storm dives south and pummels kan/mo! I sure hope the extreme cold being modeled is incorrect as well!

TED in StJoe
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TED in StJoe

thanks for sharing the winter weather Winona Minnesota! 10 years ago I did have to shovel or rake my roof. We actually had some flat roof collapses down here. We had a bunch of snow probably 15 inches and an inch and 1/2 of rain, much like a few days ago we had a couple inches of rain at 34 -35° snow did not melt I just absorbed all the rainwater and roofs went down.

Stl78(winon,mn)
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Stl78(winon,mn)

I would have been living around your neck of the woods at that time. I think I remember that. If I recall, St Joe got hit hard but KC missed out on the heavy stuff. I use to live between Smithville and liberty. Lived there for about 10 yrs

TED in StJoe
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TED in StJoe

familiar with Clay County very much. As an attorney I go to Liberty fairly regularly.

Elaine Watson. McLouth
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Elaine Watson. McLouth

Guess you’re teaching us to be careful what we wish for. Hope you get some warmer temps and relief from the winter weather.

Stl78(winon,mn)
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Stl78(winon,mn)

Thank u Elaine, I appreciate your warm wishes!

Mike H
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Mike H

What’s the snowpack like up there ?

Stl78(winon,mn)
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Stl78(winon,mn)

Mike , I posted some pics on our Facebook page if u are interested. It’s difficult to tell from the drifting but we’ve had about 40 inches in Feb so 30+ in snowpack seems reasonable. Euro current snow depth shows 38.

Blue Flash
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Blue Flash

I have had to rake the roof a couple of times. Due to the angle of our roof, I usually end up looking like a snowman as I get caught under the avalanche.

Nor'easter
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Nor'easter

Looks like another Nor’easter facial headed our way.

someweatherdude
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someweatherdude

FV3 for the win right now. Then again, I did post something yesterday discussing how the FV3 over estimates snowfall amounts. comment image

TED in StJoe
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TED in StJoe

if this verifies at even half the stated amounts. The cold temperatures for Sunday night into Monday morning and Monday night in Tuesday morning could easily be -10° to -15° which could easily be all-time record lows for the month of March.

f00dl3
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f00dl3

So NAM you are very interesting. Every time the Blizzard has came around at the onset temperatures have been warm – marginally supportive of snow. NAM – you show us close to freezing at 06z SUN.

Is the NAM right again?

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someweatherdude
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someweatherdude

Not sure if it means much, but the NAM didn’t do a very good job with the last storm. Recall that it had KC right in the thick of the blizzard that hit Nebraska/Iowa/Minn a few days ago, and the storm ended up 100 miles north of KC. It looks like it’s just a matter of the GFS and other models bringing the cold air down faster, which pushes temps here down and brings the snow further south. Hopefully the NAM has to play catch up like it did with the last storm. Edit: The GFS got a few degrees… Read more »

f00dl3
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f00dl3

The NAM implies a very good placement for snow in KC, just warmer temperatures. It would show us in the warm air advection snow action AND imply we get the comma head. The funny thing is though with warmer temperatures even though we’d have more moisture we’d probably have the same amount of snow due to lower ratios 3-6″, isolated to 8″

craig
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craig

I fear that another 6+” of snow…coming in MARCH no less…will drive KC over the edge and into the abyss.

TED in StJoe
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TED in StJoe

6+ inches of snow this weekend ± inch and next weekend we will repeat the process. In between, even though it is March, not much will melt. The St. Patrick’s Day parade may be in a blizzard :-)!!

Blue Flash
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Blue Flash

Opening day is far too early this year, I fear.

someweatherdude
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someweatherdude

If the storm this weekend materializes, and if the temperature forecasts are correct, we could easily see 20:1 liquid to snow ratios. Even higher. Right now the GFS has the main snow band coming through KC at a time when it’s 8 degrees out. That would give us ratios of 30-40:1

Troy
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Troy

The cold on the models is crazy. The Euro had -16 F for my location Monday morning and our record low for that time is only -3. It may not end up that cold but it does look like 3-4 days of sub zero lows up here.

Spooky
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Spooky

Agree that the timing of the cold air is everything. I agree with your 20:1 ascertation. This could easily produce 6+ inches.

A1hoops
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A1hoops

Have to keep in mind that if it gets too cold it could possibly push the storm farther south. Also it could bring in extra dry air and the surface that could eat into totals

Mike H
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Mike H

Won’t be even close. That cold will be champagne powder—really dry

TED in StJoe
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TED in StJoe

My calculations have this coming through on March 2 or March 3. I may be wrong but, am entitled to my own opinion. Followed by another event on March 9 or 10th. It appears that this may be occurring despite the fact that nothing was appearing on the models until very recently. The fact that all of the models are coming into alignment does not bother me. The last event that we had they came into alignment and we picked up to 6 inches of snow with measurable amounts in the Kansas City area, but cut down by sleet. The… Read more »

Spooky
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Spooky

It rarely gets below zero in March in KC. Only 6 of the 31 days of March have had below zero temps since 1889, according to the NWS. Doubtful it gets below zero in March better than once every 5+ years.

Garrett
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Garrett

I sure do hate when people act like anything IN LIFE is perfect. Especially for things like weather (gary I can relate as a trader ) as soon as you say one wrong thing, you’re awful at your job. THE LRC isnt perfect, but dang if its not close, I dont know what else is. Everyones perspective is “you’re only as good as your latest forecast” when really, over time, has anyone beat Gary? NO. Long term sustainable systems based on fact always win out over the long run. I respect your mind Gary, you think different!

Jeffg
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Just took a look at the different forecast models for Sat/Sun. The FV3-GFS, CMC, and Euro are all in alignment for snow, so that probably jinxes it for us to get anything. I don’t think I have seen such an alignment this far out. We all know things will change a lot between now and Saturday, but I thought this was kind of amusing. I like snow as much as anybody, but I am ready for one last big snow and then it can warm up. This cold needs to go.

Scott B
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Scott B

Very light snow flurries in Olathe as of 1:44 p.m.

Jason
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Jason

I love Winter and I’m ready for Spring. This two don’t have to be seperate.

jcling64056
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craig
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craig

Having lived here for 25 years, I’ve learned that the Sunday storm is one you have to plan for.
Whenever the forecast begins one week out with 12″, you can be nearly certain that the prediction will change to 8″, then 6″, then 3″ and maybe a POOF.
However, whenever the forecast begins with nothing, to an inch, to 3″ and then to the current 6-7″, THEN you have watch out.

drdesmouseaux
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drdesmouseaux

Hi All, I’m new to this area from TX, and having spent some time in OK, I’m familiar more with spring severe weather — and I know KS has its share of events to that end as well. I took some meteorology in college, and still remember a lot of it when I look at the data — and I also marvel at how nice it is to be able to access the data with just a few clicks from my computer — instead of how it was even 10-15 years ago! So, all this new stuff I’m learning about… Read more »

Troy
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Troy

I am no expert but that is what I would expect. A lot of these Lows swinging through would be severe weather producers if there was warmth and moist air.

Larry (Shawnee)
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Larry (Shawnee)

I’m probably the least knowledgeable on here, but I think you’re correct.Looks to be very stormy season.

Adam
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Adam

Some forecasters are already calling for an active severe weather season in the center of the country. I’d say it’s probable personally.

CSCO
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CSCO

Hopefully I wont get kicked off the blog for asking a question about something other than this miserable winter, and the hopes of more snow. BUT, when will this break and the warmer air start taking over? It cant be too far away. And as I mentioned earlier, hope all of you are ready for a continuous conversation, with maps, of the unrelenting heat this summer. I for one cant wait to post about that for 6 continuous months. Outside of about 15 people in the entire Midwest Region, all 15 of which are on this blog, the rest of… Read more »

Troy
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Troy

I just hope we have a nice spring. Summer can be miserable here too if its hot. Last year we missed out on spring as April was so cold and then it just went straight to summer.

Josh
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Josh

From what I’m seeing, after the next week to ten days, temperatures shouldn’t be as far below average, but we’ll probably have to wait until early-mid April until we see a return of above average temperatures…. Hoping for an active severe weather season in April and May!

Skylar
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Skylar

I love snow but an early spring is just as nice if not better honestly. Hopefully this weather won’t continue through April like last year, but that doesn’t seem likely considering the current LRC. Since last fall our biggest “warm spells” have ended up being a few days with near average temperatures.

someweatherdude
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someweatherdude

I don’t know why you’re getting down voted. I love winter. I’m hoping for more snow. But if you’re ready for Spring, that’s fine. I’m sure most people are. That’s no reason to be down voted.

sierravista
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sierravista

Sounds like a good discussion to me. So over winter and ready for spring.

Jason
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Jason

Love Winter! Ready for Spring ASAP!

DesertQueen
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DesertQueen

I liked the snow when I was a kid, but the older I get, the more I hate it. This winter has been brutal. I am a teacher and this was our 9th snow day, it makes it impossible for any kind of consistency. We are also farmers and this cold has been murder(literally) on calves. The utter lack of sunshine has sent so many folks’ seasonal depression into overdrive, myself included.
Give me 100 degrees, sunshine, and 70% humidity over this cold, grey, wet garbage any day.

drdesmouseaux
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drdesmouseaux

We just took our 8th snow day today — and you are right — the lack of consistency has been really hard this year with the kids!!

Drdesmouseaux

Troy
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Troy

New Euro has more snow for much of KS and 10-12 inches for KC out to 120 hrs.

brad
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brad

Next weekend the weather channel is calling for 2-6 inches of snow

Grambo624
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Grambo624

The Weather Channel is worthless with localized forecasts.

Josh
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Josh

TWC should NOT be used for any sort of snowfall accumulation forecasts, especially at this range.

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

Accuweather saying 3-6, but those are notoriously inaccurate and they change those amounts constantly

Jason Rann
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Jason Rann

My experience with Accuweather has been that they typically start with low totals and increase as we get closer to an event.

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

it can go up or down with time….I’ve seen it do both many times

EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

I’m not seeing this, link?

Troy
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Troy

I have a pay site so you won’t be able to see the link.

SnowCommander
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SnowCommander
someweatherdude
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someweatherdude

And I believe that is using 10/1 ratio. Since it will be well below freezing, the actual amounts will be greater, if the Euro verifies.

EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

Snow has been lightly falling for some time now in Parkville. It doesn’t seem to be accumulating all that much though.

Melanie
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Melanie

Is the storm on Friday now gone?

f00dl3
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f00dl3

No where to be found.

EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

Complete poof. I suspect it never really existed in the LRC in the first place. March 3 should be the real storm.

Mr. Pete
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Mr. Pete

I never knew one even existed for Friday.

f00dl3
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f00dl3

Many bloggers said the blizzard would be back March 1st. Several days ago models showed us having a light snow event March 1st and some jumped on the bandwagon that the Blizzard v4 was March 1st. Now it delayed to March 3rd, and there was much drama that the LRC is 2 days behind now per yesterdays blog. But this now looks like the Blizzard.

EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

It’s definitely delayed by two days. It became noticeable in early to mid February.

Becca
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Becca

I am not understanding what the big deal is about the exact date. It has been known for many years that the LRC can wobble by a day or two from cycle to cycle. So it being “off” by a 1.5 days is entirely possible. I agree that the early Sunday event is the “blizzard” “drought buster” event. I also feel that in the past two cycles the Euro was the most accurate handling this a couple days prior. The other models have been terrible at even seeing it more than the day before. I think in cycle 2 the… Read more »

Melanie
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Melanie

Thank you all for the explanation. This is what I thought, but wanted to be sure.

f00dl3
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f00dl3

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Here we go! Now showing 6″ in KC metro.

North Topeka
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North Topeka

I believe the FV3 run shows a “dry slot” [not really my bad :)] in EKS. I want to see this on the NAM too. Then I believe it.comment image

EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

UGH. That looks EXACTLY the same shape as the dry area that shortchanged Parkville in January. AGAIN.

I’m telling you, this is the same storm! It has the highest totals in and east of Columbia too.

ClassyCat
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ClassyCat

That doesn’t really look like a dry slot to me. Maybe intensification east of KC, but not a dry slot.

f00dl3
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f00dl3

I think the “donut hole” of no significantly less snow west of KC is what is being called the dry slot. It kind of is.

North Topeka
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North Topeka

I appreciate the clarification. I’ve edited that. Good ole fashion meteorology jargon I know nothing about, gets me every time. [patiently waiting for a KC area TOR:CON forecast]

f00dl3
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f00dl3

Well it’s kind of accurate. I don’t get why people are so picky about how the term dry slot is used – it has multiple applicable scenarios and while scientifically one may be right or wrong, to normal people you can use it to describe multiple scenarios. The dry area / donut hole is created by the way the main piece of energy lags behind the warm air advection. With the storm track the image below shows, warm air advection will create leading snow ahead of the energy, and behind that there is a psudo dry slot before the main… Read more »

ClassyCat
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ClassyCat

Well f00dl3….since I’m the only one that responded saying I don’t think it’s a dry slot, I’m guessing you are referring to me with “picky”. Further, you use the term “to normal people”. Hey, it’s a blog and I can’t really get truly offended since this is not face to face communication. However, I think I have lost some respect for your comment there. I have an opinion that it’s not a dry slot. Maybe I’m right. Maybe I’m wrong. You have a different opinion. Big deal. Maybe your right. Maybe your wrong. You are making things personal with “picky”… Read more »

f00dl3
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f00dl3

Wasn’t targeted at you. It just seems everyone’s emotions go up in the air when someone says dry slot. Heck, we even have a blogger that has that as a name and only posts when we are in a dry slot. lol!

ClassyCat
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ClassyCat

I was the only one to respond saying it wasn’t. So, you did target me. Time to move on

jeffnKs
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jeffnKs

OMFG this is why i never post in here. Some people are so touchy and assumes things. Or take things the wrong way. Classy you are a dry slot. lol

ClassyCat
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ClassyCat

Nice jeff. Didn’t even involve you. Wow, that really hurt being called a dry slot. Genius.

f00dl3
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f00dl3

Oh and in my humble opinion anything the Weather Channel puts out – TOR CON, named winter storms, allergy forecasts sponsored by Claritin – it’s just hype and bogus. SPC Convective outlooks are much more accurate than TORCON forecasts.

Josh
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Josh

Dr. Greg Forbes still did pretty good with TOR:CON.

Mr. Pete
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Mr. Pete

I have this sinking feeling that this will certainly verify given what we have already experienced this winter.

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

ROFL on Gary’s twitter – Vanillezak Ice

Grambo624
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Grambo624

Conrad strikes again.

EastOfEden
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EastOfEden

Flurries in west Parkville. Didn’t notice before but there’s a tiny bit of accumulation in sidewalk cracks.

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

light snow in Lawrence

Rodney
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Rodney

NWS in St Louis mentioned in their gotcast discussion yesterday evening due to high snow ratios they feel at this early stage that 3-5” of snow could fall across the CWA. The forecastor also mentioned this: “In addition to having temperatures Saturday night and Sunday 15-25 degrees below normal, a round of light snow is becoming increasingly likely. Medium-range deterministic and ensemble guidance suggests a broad swath of light accumulating snowfall across a majority of the CWA (County Warning Area). Moderate snowfall amounts (3-5″) appear possible with this system, in part due to much higher than normal snow-to-liquid ratios (SLR)… Read more »

Elaine Watson. McLouth
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Elaine Watson. McLouth

Tiny flurries in the air here.

Emily B
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Emily B

Moderate snow coming down in Topeka (enough for a good dusting already), but it’s not showing up on the radar.

Dale
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So when are we expecting snow to begin on Saturday evening? And, some states are saying possibly a couple of inches Friday night into Saturday morning while others have no mention of it. What’s going on?

Garrett
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Garrett

“some states” I mean, you’re acting like the difference in snow totals between STATES is surprising let alone 10 miles in our geographical location and its climate complications. You do know I received 9 inches of snow in one system that also only produced 4 inches in Parkville. 15 minutes down 152 from me. Snow graidents are nothing new in our viewing area, let alone states!

Clarky
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Clarky

I think he meant stations, not states

East Shawneer
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East Shawneer

I’m think he meant (TV) Stations and not States.

Rich (east of Topeka)
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Rich (east of Topeka)

Just a guess Garrett, but I think “some states” was a typo for “some stations”.

Garrett
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Garrett

Ah didnt consider that. Possible, once again, Dale, dont think im being condescending, I never am on here. I know how that feels trust me!

Dale
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Thanks, yes some stations.

Mr. Pete
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Mr. Pete

How did all the road crews get caught off guard? The WWA was issued at 3:30ish yesterday!

Weatherby Tom
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Weatherby Tom

Just had one of those snow grain showers here, turned everything white in an instant

f00dl3
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f00dl3

Seriously roads are really bad out there jokes asides even this small amount of ice we had there have been dozens of wrecks. Worst east side of KC metro it appears per kcscout.net

SnowGoPewPew
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SnowGoPewPew

Its bad on the north and west side of KC as well. 291 to 435 S to I-35 S was a lot of ice, wrecks all over the place. Downtown KC on the westside near West Penway was a sheet of ice with at least 8-10 cars in wreck on I-35 alone.

MoDot should have pretreated, the precip was falling yesterday evening. I think they seriously failed to heed the warning. Maybe they don’t pay attention to KSHB or NOAA.

Hockeynut69
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Hockeynut69

I don’t think the experts even thought this would happen. Did they expect freezing drizzle? Yes. Did they expect the cold surge of air that came through at 3am or so? I don’t think so. I think this caught them all off guard and therefore we are in the situation we are in. Temperatures generally speaking don’t change a whole lot when there is cloud cover unless there is a strong surge of cold air or winds. Both happened and it caused a flash freeze to the roads. The schools made the right call this morning (even though I am… Read more »

SnowGoPewPew
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SnowGoPewPew

This is the part of the pattern that is the most troublesome. I want to move on to warmer temperatures to get out of this cycle alone of having freezing drizzle. At least with snow you can see it and be better prepared, but until hovering cars are a thing, icy roads will continue to be a problem. I have no doubts that we may have more bouts with the freezing precip until the temperatures start to moderate to be more springlike.

steelwheel67
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steelwheel67

I came home from work around 1230 last night and roads were just wet. Your right a cold surge for sure came in a short time around 3 or so.

Jason
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Jason

Douglas County was pretreated all around Lawrence. Even out in the country where I live. Was KC not? Wow

Rich (east of Topeka)
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Rich (east of Topeka)

Completely agree with you there Jason. I live up by Lecompton/Perry and even our county roads up there were all pretreated, some as early as Monday evening.

someweatherdude
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someweatherdude

Out in south OP, leaving around 7:40 this morning, and all the way until I crossed the state line around 87th street, the roads were completely fine. As soon as I crossed into KCMO, it was icy. I like a lot of things about KCMO, but they have trouble when it comes to treating streets in the winter.

Adam Taylor
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Adam Taylor

KCMO and many of the surrounding communities in MO are TERRIBLE at treating the streets. I always hear ‘more miles of streets and so many different communities’, but I don’t see how that’s any different than the KS side. They’re just terrible at managing their money I think.

snow hater
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snow hater

heat mizer do you have a job

Mr. Pete
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Mr. Pete

Why do you ask?

Joe
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Joe

Yes he runs the blog lol

Blue Flash
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Blue Flash

Is the high Friday really supposed to be only 30? It says rising temperatures, but that is the same high as Thursday. NWS shows 41 for Friday.