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Good morning bloggers,

It’s Friday!  TGIF!   The weather pattern is quite fascinating as the new LRC unfolds before our eyes in the next few weeks.  Be careful about making any conclusions at this point. Remember Kansas City has had four straight years with very bad patterns for us weather enthusiasts. The total snowfall for the past four years has been around 30″. Divide that number by four and you get around 7″ per winter.  That is as if we have been moved to Oklahoma City, where they average close to that number.  So, hang on. There is a lot more of this pattern for us to experience, four to six more weeks.

Today:

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A low pressure area is tracking north of the Great Lakes.  There is a weak wave cyclone associated with this system, and there is a trough (black dashed line) moving across the Great Lakes extending southwest to just north of KC by this evening. This will allow for another big warm up today, and I wouldn’t be shocked if it gets close to 70 degrees in spots.  That cold front (blue line) is tracking across the USA/Canada border tonight, and by Saturday afternoon this front will be moving through. The wave cyclone will be producing a nice snowstorm in eastern Canada.

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We are in a dry pattern at the moment, even though it did rain a bit this morning.  But, are we really in a dry pattern? We have had over 10″ of rain this month already, so it had to dry out a bit.  What lies ahead?

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This next map, above, shows the series of storm systems developing in the westerly flow.  The LRC actually describes the flow over all of the Northern Hemisphere from the equator to the poles, and is primarily concentrated in the westerly belt. This model is one of many solutions for what happens around day 10.  The models are all over the place every few hours, as they should be. Eventually Weather2020 will KNOW when the models are right and when they are wrong.  Right now the pattern is still setting up, as it began just two weeks ago.

It will be great weekend of weather for the KC Marathon, the Kansas Speedway activities, and the Sunday Night Football game. Go Chiefs. Big game! I think if they win, they are on their way to 13-3 or 14-2. If they lose, 11-5 is possible, or even 10-6. So, this is a big game.

Have great day.

Gary

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f00dl3

I get the feeling the money is winning out over the community. From a pure business standpoint, it’s stupid to have somewhere where people can criticize your product directly affiliated with your product’s website. That’s what Reddit is for.

Richard
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Richard

Maybe so. Because his product is tied to kshb, no matter how he tried to separate the two.
When he retires from kshb he will no doubt still work on the LRC.
But he could at the least come on here and explain.
“We are downsizing. We have to let you go.”

Richard
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Richard

The site that MikeL created is great. Really appreciate it.
Would like to see many more check it out.
Numbersguy, Rockdoc, JoeK, you all have good info and thoughts.
I know there are many others.
Bill in Lawrence, Hume Dude, Baseball Mike, Terry.
Need to get the weather ball rolling again. Hopefully it will be snowballs before long !

MikeL
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MikeL

Hey bloggers!!! We’ve moved into an apartment until we see who gets the house! Come join us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*************** https://kcrweather.wordpress.com/ ****************************

Joe
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Joe

Thanks for setting this up. Didn’t Gary give a presentation on how to run a successful weather blog at one of those meetings with his peers? If so, the web traffic on this site is going to crash…oh the irony.

MikeL
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MikeL

Since Gary is non-committal about opening comments up, I have created a “temporary” site where we can meet in the event this gets closed, too. At least this is a place to start for moving forward until something else is decided for those interested in continuing on.

https://kcrweather.wordpress.com/

Frankie
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Frankie

Check this out bloggers. Would be a great alternative to this blog if we can find a way to embed Gary’s blogs over to there

LYITC41
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LYITC41

Why involve Lezak at all after what he did. Break free, do your own thing, and leave him out of it!! Screw him! It’s what he did to you.

Richard
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Richard

Thanks Mike
Worked for me

MikeL
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MikeL

Thanks! I hope people find out about it.

Rockdoc
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Rockdoc

Tim, what was the question that you asked that they are thinking about it and may announce? To carry on with the blog? To open it up to comments? Your response is just as cryptic as Lezaks. Clarification would help.

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

I asked if the comments were to be re enabled soon. I also mentioned his users were interested in creating a secondary site if comments were going to remain disabled.

Richard
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Richard

Maybe 2020 is getting ready to revamp the whole site.
I wanted to check out the 12 wk forecast but that link is gone.
Used to be click on weather app and it took you to the 12 week fill in zip code.
A few other things on that the 2020 home page don’t seem to be working either.

Tony
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Tony

Go out and get f’ed Richard!

Rockdoc
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Rockdoc

The Weather1 app still works. Just checked it out and goes out to week of Nov 25th. I wonder if he lost his “intern” and IT guy. Maybe trying to run on thin team.

Frankie
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Frankie

FV3 has a gargantuan of a snowstorm on Nov 3. Not going to happen, but good sign models are already giving us snow this early.comment image

Richard
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Richard

Its only 10 days away. So maybe !

Ryan
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Ryan

shift the precip 100 miles north and it might verify

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

Cant wait for this winter. So many rain storms here in lawrence, multiple rains in Sept, monsterous rains in Oct, rain off an on all day today even…lots of snow a coming.

Richard
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Richard

Hope so Heat !

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

Sadly I received this vague response:
“We are discussing it internally and will announce it eventually”

Tony
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Tony

F Gary. Post links to different weather sites on here. He doesn’t give a damn about you guys…

Richard
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Richard

LYITC41 and Rockdoc With all due respect, we don’t come here for local weather /news that we can get from any other local met. The kshb and 2020 blog are for the LRC. And to read and communicate with the bloggers, and Gary, about the LRC. I like JL blog purely for his in depth charts and stats. But it is not the LRC. And Joe, Heady, Brett Anthony are not Gary. (Heady is definitely not Gary, he tried to out-do Gary with his own theory, but it does not fly with me at all ) We can still come… Read more »

Rockdoc
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Rockdoc

Richard, local weather is tied to LRC. Some mets do a better job explaining the setups. Here’s a good example of several writeups for this week. Although geared towards Nor-easter that targets the east coast the writeup also helps explain whats coming our way. This will circle back around per the LRC, but with “seasonal” differences. One needs to look at the “whole” setup and not just a thin nugget.

https://blog.weather.us/

Rockdoc
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Rockdoc

Did anyone see Joe L’s writeup on what is happening up in Alaska? He actually had two of them. The first one talks about the “blob” of relatively warm water up near the Alaskan coast and possible implications for this winter. The second one talks about the records being set temperature wise in Alaska…..very warm. Anyways, just thought I’d provide links in case anyone wanted to talk weather and possible setups for this winter given what we’ve seen so far with ridging and troughing.

https://fox4kc.com/2018/10/17/joes-weather-blog-the-return-of-the-blob-winter-clue-wed-10-17/

https://fox4kc.com/2018/10/23/joes-weather-blog-whats-going-on-in-alaska-tue-10-23/

Rockdoc
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Rockdoc

A web site would be great. By the way, I think the original pay site was set up via WordPress. I don’t really care for FB and only use it to check in on some of Gary’s postings and a few others. I have mine totally closed down where no one can see my FB page. Too bad Weather 5280 doesn’t post about weather out our way. Only Colorado, mostly Denver and during ski season – snow in the mountains. For those looking for good write ups on weather and local conditions…check out Joe L blog on the Furry channel.… Read more »

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

Well I did a search and that domain name is taken. KCWeather.blog is available although I’m not a fan of “.blog” extensions. KCWeatherFans.com. I’m open to domain names ideas. I would prefer the domain to be somewhat SEO-Friendly. I have absolutely no problem throwing in a few bucks toward cheap hosting/domain and putting it together as long as its used.

LYITC41
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LYITC41

But cut you, and everyone, off he has. Get your news and weather on another station if this pisses you off. Don’t use his wx product. Reject everything this guy says and does. In other words, MOVE ON!!!

Richard
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Richard

I too am surprised Gary has not mentioned it in his blog writeups this week. He does still say good morning bloggers, but we cannot blog on those writeups. I looked back at several blogs and really do not see anything recently that would have caused him to close comments. Again I apologize if I was one reason. Does Gary even realize we are still using this one to comment ? One of his recent presentations with peers was about successful blogs. It would be good if he could tell everyone what happened and if this will be permanent. I… Read more »

LYITC41
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LYITC41

He won’t say anything, if he were inclined to he would have said something by now. He does not give a shit what you all think.

Bluetooth
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Bluetooth

Yep, he doesn’t give a …… something probably didn’t go well with his paper r/t the LRC.

MikeL
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MikeL

It would be both helpful and courteous if Gary would step up and let the bloggers know if the blog comments are closed permanently or will be opened again – and when – before we reinvent the wheel by starting something new. He may have already done this for all I know since I don’t know what’s been said or why the comments were closed in the first place. So Gary why don’t you come forward and clarify this so we know how to proceed. I think everyone here would just like to continue on as we always have and… Read more »

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

I reached out to him over the several FB pages I communicated in the past this morning asking these very same questions.

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

.. and facebook messenger..

Anonymous
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Anonymous

This morning’s blog fodder: “Why it matters: This storm is the strongest typhoon ever to strike the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and likely the strongest ever to strike the U.S. and its territories. “This is an historically significant event,” tweeted Michael Lowry, a FEMA hurricane specialist. Based on satellite data that meteorologists use to estimate storm intensity, Super Typhoon Yutu is one of the strongest tropical cyclones (hurricanes and typhoons) observed on Earth in the modern record, on par with Super Typhoon Haiyan in 2013. That storm devastated the city of Tacloban in the Philippines, killing thousands.” Pure,… Read more »

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

This I completely agree. Andrew was upgraded to a CAT 5 — almost 10 years later. I’m sure if we had the opportunity to review unknown storms in the central atlantic before the 60’s.. There are probably 1000ft wide storms over 200mph sustained below 870mb. I wouldnt be surprised if even larger and stronger than that has occured and we simply have no record.

Johnny
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Johnny

Jordan get any rain yet?

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

Fyi I wouldn’t put any kshb or weather2020 into a title without Gary’s permission. I’ll reach out to him over the weekend and get his thoughts

MikeL
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MikeL

A lot of weather enthusiasts have invested a lot of time over the years contributing to the discussions and making this blog the success that it has been. Whatever the problem is that caused this could have been addressed more directly with the perps. Gary has created a lot of bad will here and I for one am extremely disappointed in the overkill and lack of professionalism. It all seems so unnecessary.

I don’t use FakeBook and don’t plan to. So if that is where the forum goes I guess I am out.

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

Mike thanks for the feedback. Does the KC area have any notable local weather enthusiast websites? I could take on a larger project since I have webpage and so experience

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

*Seo

Frankie
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Frankie

I was also thinking about the possibility of a website. Easier access. If you need help let me know I think it’s very possible

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

If I went through website route which I have thought about in the past– I would probably use wordpress with a very malleable template.

Frankie
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Frankie

WordPress would be perfect. We should get on that.

Johnny
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Johnny

I mean i get it, but would have at least addressed it.

Mike
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Mike

Well said, MikeL. It is sad to know that those glorious days on both kshb weather and weather2020 blogs have come to an end. The comment section was abruptly closed is so shocking and unprofessional.

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

I do agree– especially considering this used to be a pay product that I paid for as well. I’ll bird dog whats going on, and then we collectively can come up with a solution. I been either stalking or posting over the past 8 years so I’d like for all of us to stick together somehow on a format that works for all, while still giving the opportunity to have new people come and moderated.

Mr. Pete
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Mr. Pete

For what it’s worth, I am not on Facebook either and don’t plan to be. I am on Twitter, though.

Baseball Mike
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Baseball Mike

Good morning Mike

I agree, we are two of the early original bloggers from 2001/2002. I will miss not being able to discuss weather and to put precipitation amounts to compare where the tracks of precipitation were falling. I will also not participate on FaceBook.

Michael/Berryton/Topeka

MikeL
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MikeL

Yes indeed Mike…hard to believe it’s been that long!

Rockdoc
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Rockdoc

Don’t know if we want to tie it to KSHB. They could make us take it down using their FCC call name. Instead, I would go with Kansas City Region Weather 2020 Orphans 😉 I think we need to have “orphans” in the title since that is what we are…..

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

For title I think it needs to include kshb and weather2020 in title to make easily searchable on FB. Something like KSHB-Weather2020 Weather Nuts? Lol..

RossBo
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RossBo

I wasn’t sure if we could use Weather2020 in the name…copyright/trademark?

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

At first simple links to each blog would be shared to the group and comments would be at the bottom of each shared link. I’m sure there are aggregate third party apps that can post these automatically at some point. It could be tagged as the highlight post until Gary’s next update. Meanwhile other weather links could be posted as replies our own running topics. At this point it just needs to be created for us weather enthusiasts. Hopefully Gary and others would post comments.

LYITC41
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LYITC41

GL has washed his hands of all this. He won’t post anything.

Rockdoc
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Rockdoc

If we’re going to do a FB blog, how do you propose to get Gary’s and other weather blogs posted so there are topics for discussion? Since I don’t FB other than to periodically look at Gary’s I’m not sure how it works. Can you link to or grab/copy other postings and paste them onto a FB page? I would suggest looking for other weather blogs that go into more detail regarding the 500 mb and other maps showing the features. Several years ago Gary used to go into more detail including discussions on some of the technical aspects, but… Read more »

Thomas Mcclellan
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Thomas Mcclellan

I’m down with a Facebook group.

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

Hey all! I would have no problem creating the group since I already have a couple FB pages on different topics now.. namely broadcast my newly accessible movies from plex server. I have been on the road the past two weeks and just got back. I can start working on this tomorrow evening and have ready Saturday. Thoughts?

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

..and collaborative with hand full of mods. I can probably find a way to auto script Gary’s post over to the group. I am somewhat familiar with working on third party FB apps to integrate.

Tony
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Tony

Sounds like a gay old time….I am sure it will last a few days. I bet all 5 bloggers here will move over there lol. You guys need to just let it go.

Frankie
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Frankie

I could start the FB group. It would take me probably a few days to get going as we figure things out, but we can post links to Gary’s blog, and then comment on that post? I’d have to figure out how to start it, but I’d be up for taking the initiative. We could have a group of moderators. Strictly a weather blog. No trolling, and quite simply… don’t be an asshole.

Clint
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Clint

I think it would be great, let me know if I can help

BSMike
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BSMike

What is the fb page called I would be interested in it?

RossBo
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RossBo

I think we should move this discussion to private group on FB. Moderation is much easier and the ground rules can be set from the beginning.

RossBo
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RossBo

Just saw that was proposed above.

Tony
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Tony

MowerMike + Robert Racy= Terry

We need to stop this madness!!

Terry
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Terry

https://weather2020.com/2018/10/06/ This is the first day of this years LRC October 6th

Terry
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Terry

Everyone This years LRC started on October 6th of this months . Gary stated and said that and his blog on October the 6 that was the 1st day. He said welcome to the first day of this years LRC.

blue flash
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blue flash

I am also quite disappointed in the shutdown of the comments. Many penalized for the indiscretion of the few. I hope Gary will reconsider. It has never been perfect and never will be, but I have learned a lot over the years, from the blog but also from the comments. Won’t be the same without feedback. I will also check back from time to time.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Need Mower Mike to beat up all of the detractors. Small-man-itis. Maybe that ass-whoopin’ you got last month finally shut you up.

Rockdoc
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Rockdoc

Tried again, and I hope this one posts as well. I hope Gary leaves this particular comment section open since it appears to be the only one that is still functional. It’s too bad that the comment section on other blog pages are shut off. Anyways, I noticed that one good feature of this years LRC is the formation of the trough out west. Last year the trough set up was mostly over the eastern 1/2 to 1/3 of the country and the snow storms tended to ride up along the eastern side of the trough. Also, it appears that… Read more »

Terry
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Terry

Rockdoc this year’s LRC started on October 6th of this year was the first day of the New LRC that’s what Gary Stated on October 6th in his blog.

KSUstudent
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KSUstudent

If Gary did not want us commenting why would he still be allowing these comments to be posted on this older blog post? Just a thought

Rockdoc
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Rockdoc

I just tried entering a comment and it would not take.

Tim in Lone Jack
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Tim in Lone Jack

You know in the short term, why don’t we just create a facebook group and link to his daily entry? We can comment on there and invite Gary to participate. Leave the drama to us so he don’t have to worry about it.

DaveC
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DaveC

This is a fantastic idea. I always thought that this blog would be easily mod’d if Gary would have given 1 or 2 trusted active members the ability to police this place. I mentioned in many times back on KSHB, instead of we have what appears a minor temp tamper (weathered this several times through the years) by whoever and they close the comments down. I’d rather see the link to a blog on FB and we then have the group to continue having discussions. I do fear that without the comments this site will lose the #’s ..oh well

Mr. Pete
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Mr. Pete

I know I don’t mess with FB – maybe I am just the minority but I am totally up for something.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Good Wednesday Morning Bloggers. Haven’t been on for awhile. Wondered what was going on, and I saw that the number of comments on this blog kept on increasing. I too had contacted Gary but did not hear back. Glad to know that I was not going bonkers on why I could not comment. So, in looking at the new LRC setup, it looks like we have a good one so far. The western trough with possible closed off low. Remember what Gary said….a closed off low is a weatherman’s woe. Last year, the trough was positioned mostly over the eastern… Read more »

Urbanity
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Urbanity

BTW – I’m sure Gary will open the comments back up after the new LRC is set, just a feeling.

LYITC41
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LYITC41

Don’t give a rat’s rear end if he does or not, why would anyone? Don’t let him jerk you around with this or let it ruin your day.

Urbanity
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Urbanity

Don’t look now but the new LRC is beginning to look a lot like the old LRC. “It’s going to cold, it’s going to be dry, and it’s going to last for the rest of the winter”.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Noticed the same thing….another miserable winter lrc

Snow Miser
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Snow Miser

I don’t know about anyone else, but I think I’ll mostly miss Bill in Lawrence’s thoughts.

Tony
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Tony

Ask him when he wakes up next to you lol

Numb3rsGuy
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Numb3rsGuy

After reading the comments above I can see why Gary shut off the comments; too much name calling and bad blood.

It has been a pleasure sharing my numb3rs with you all. Good luck to you all.

Frankie
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Frankie

Exactly. Grown men acting like middle schoolers on a weather blog. Cmon people…

Mr. Pete
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Mr. Pete

Twilight Zone.

Tony
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Tony

Alice could see this blog going down the drain. Robert Racy will have to stick to twitter and not this blog for his precious weather updates. Get back to work Robert…don’t waste tax $. I will miss Hume’s “farm” updates from his liberal Shawnee home…btw he doesnt even farm lol…

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

Whatever will you do now that you cant troll on a weather blog? ROFL

Richard
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Richard

Not weather related, but need to say something. I spoke with my pastor today. Yes, I have a pastor of long standing, but it has been too long reaching out to him. Trying to let go of my anger and bitterness in life in general. I need to make things right. My sincere apologies if I am one of the reasons why comments are closed. Those apologies extend to Heat Miser, JoeK, Urbanity, and anyone else who I attacked or vilified. And especially Gary. I know I said things these past 2 years that appeared I was attacking you. I… Read more »

Tony
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Tony

Who cares…

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

No worries Richard, I didnt care if you posted my tweets…I just didnt get the point since I has just said I tweeted Gary.

L.B
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L.B

Is it any wonder? This is a bit-h blog! from Hume and his liberal politics to Richard and his incessant boorish behind the back ..im just trying to learn but do not really give a sh-t comments! I can not believe he let it go this long. He is a scientist. Richard and Hume are not. This was never intended to be a place where deranged wanna bee’s could feel like they matter. Richard…..Hume see a DR. their are med’s for you

Richard
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Richard

L.B.
I do take meds.
They only go so far in helping loneliness and depression. Add old age into the mix.
Sometimes they make things worse.
My apologies to you as well.
I was typing and did not see yours until I posted mine.