Todays Weather: Trick or Treat?

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Todays Weather: Trick or Treat?

Good morning bloggers,

Happy Halloween!  The weather today has some challenging forecasts and one of them is in Kansas City.  Could there be a few snowflakes later this afternoon? There is a weak storm system aloft moving across the southern Rocky Mountains. This will provide enough rising motion to produce areas of showers.  The air mass is very dry near the surface and the dew points are low.  This only increases the chance of a few snowflakes instead of rain drops in many areas.

This mornings radar:

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There was a somewhat organized area of snow over western Kansas early this morning.  This is what we will be tracking all day long.

Kansas City Weather Time-Line:

  • Now through noon:  Increasing clouds. Temperatures warming up to near 40°.  Light winds.
  • Noon to 6 PM:  Becoming overcast with a few showers. The chance of measurable precipitation is 50%.  Rain or snow showers are possible and the temperature will be critical for what reaches the ground. Temperatures in the lower 40s but dropping into the 30s during the late afternoon or if any showers fall.
  • Trick or treating:  Maybe that brief shower this evening, which could be rain or snow.  Temperatures in the 30s with light winds

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The above two maps show the HRRR at 3 PM and and 5 PM.  This model has these rain and snow showers making it all the way across most of the KC viewing area.  So, again, today is a rather interesting day near KC.

Let’s track this together and we will also be tracking the trick or treating on 41 Action News later today as well. Thank you for sharing in this weather experience featuring Weather2020 and the Action Weather Blog. Go over to and join in the conversation if you would like to ask us any questions. We will look farther ahead in tomorrows blog.



2017-11-02T07:35:45+00:00October 31st, 2017|General|49 Comments


  1. Snow Miser October 31, 2017 at 8:02 am - Reply

    Go snow!!

  2. Michael Casteel October 31, 2017 at 8:17 am - Reply

    Here’s my October totals: I recorded 7 rain events over the 31 days. The most was on October 15th with .85″. The least was on October 5th with just a trace. There was a nice streak of moisture from October 4th-8th with rain on four days straight. Can we imagine if it was snow!!! Have a great Tuesday bloggers, and Congrats Chiefs!!

  3. Richard October 31, 2017 at 9:07 am - Reply

    Well looks like the chance of precip has increased since yesterday.
    I don’t think Gary had it at 50% yesterday ?

    • Gary October 31, 2017 at 10:18 am - Reply

      It really hasn’t changed much as it looks very similar to how it looked yesterday, just that there may be a few showers for a half hour or so later today. I increased the chance to 50% but that is not very high considering it is in just a few hours away. The air is very dry in the lowest 5,000 feet, so most of the precipitation will likely dry out before reaching the ground, evaporate. Let’s see what happens. It is snowing in Salina, KS, and that area of precipitation is holding together. The models say it all falls apart by 7 PM, only 8 1/2 hours from now.


  4. Rod October 31, 2017 at 9:59 am - Reply

    My October totals in Ashland, MO which is halfway between Columbia & Jefferson City I recorded precipitation on 13 different days: 4th- 0.58, 5th- 1.59, 6th- 0.04, 7th- 0.07, 8th- 0.27, 10th-0.10, 11th- 0.15, 12th- 0.01, 15th- 1.63, 22nd- 0.49, 23rd- 0.11, 25th- 0.06, & 30th- 0.01. Total rainfall for the month 5.11″. Gary being just a little further east & seeing some good rain events does that mean I could see different weather than KC experiences over the winter when systems cycle back through? Was wondering if you could do a snowfall forecast when you issue Kansas City & include other locations in the state like Columbia, St Louis, & Springfield for example so we can see the differences & similarities. Looking forward to more snow this winter fingers crossed. Thanks

  5. Three7s October 31, 2017 at 10:05 am - Reply

    The Chiefs may have beat the Broncos, but it changes nothing about the shape of the team. The Broncos have the worst offense in the NFL and the Chiefs still got stomped on the ground and the secondary isn’t much better. Just ugly.

  6. Steve October 31, 2017 at 10:27 am - Reply

    4.03″ of Rain up here 15 mi. SW of Hiawatha for Oct 95% of which came between the 3rd – 14th.

  7. Richard October 31, 2017 at 10:41 am - Reply

    Radar looks like snow on Topeka’s doorstep. Is it reaching the ground ?
    And the area to the west looks like its expanding.

    • Gary October 31, 2017 at 11:29 am - Reply

      It is 50 miles west of Topeka, so it is aloft at first. Let’s see if it makes it all the way to the KS/MO state line.


  8. Troy October 31, 2017 at 12:19 pm - Reply

    Moderate snow here in NC KS. Not sticking to much however just a little on the top of the vehicles.

  9. Snow Miser October 31, 2017 at 12:25 pm - Reply

    All of a sudden the radar says it’s snowing over us. Don’t see anything out the window, however.

  10. MikeL October 31, 2017 at 12:25 pm - Reply

    Light snow falling here in SW Topeka at my house! First of the season! 39 degrees.

    • Emily B October 31, 2017 at 12:33 pm - Reply

      Yep – can confirm! Snowing here in SE Topeka as well.

      • Jill October 31, 2017 at 12:42 pm - Reply

        First snowflakes of the season spotted in Downtown Topeka. Very, very light and lasted for about 10 minutes. Still cool to see!

  11. Dan M. October 31, 2017 at 1:04 pm - Reply

    Can confirm as well. Light flurries falling here on the west side of Topeka. Hopefully this is a good sign for this winter!!

  12. Michael Garner October 31, 2017 at 1:28 pm - Reply

    Here in Leavenworth about to run to the store to get milk, bread and some eggs (you can guess what that means)

  13. Weatherby Tom October 31, 2017 at 1:47 pm - Reply

    Flurries here at the unofficial Weatherby Lake reporting station. First snow I’ve ever seen on Halloween!

  14. BSMike October 31, 2017 at 1:48 pm - Reply

    Snowing very lightly here green hills road and 152. I’m now hunting and this is just perfect.

  15. Randy Keller October 31, 2017 at 2:15 pm - Reply

    snowing here…. 30 miles south west lincoln ne…

    thanks Gary.. this site is awesome! nice job by kc last night. Dallas next.. Go BoyZ!


  16. Randy Keller October 31, 2017 at 2:16 pm - Reply

    decks white….

    happy halloween

    • Richard October 31, 2017 at 2:31 pm - Reply

      Where are you ?

  17. Dan M. October 31, 2017 at 2:25 pm - Reply

    Actually snowing hard enough in Topeka to stick to trees and other plants. Ground is too warm to stick. Wish it was about 10 degrees colder.

    • MikeL October 31, 2017 at 2:40 pm - Reply

      Same here in SW Topeka. 37 degrees at my house. Trees, bushes and decks have light accumulations.

  18. Urbanity October 31, 2017 at 2:29 pm - Reply

    We had about 3 hours of snow here west of Salina. It covered the ground, just shy of an inch, but had it been colder would have been 1-3 inch type snow.

    • MMike October 31, 2017 at 3:17 pm - Reply


      For the last 10 days you have been pounding the idea of a non winter for your area…west of Salina. Now, you get snow before anyone else does and it covered the ground. WOW! In October to boot.

      Let’s hope this is the beginning of a beautiful winter.

      I sure hope you are doing well considering all that you have had to go through with your wife. Best of luck, I hope all goes well for you guys.

  19. Richard October 31, 2017 at 2:35 pm - Reply

    Current radar shows snow all around me. But Olathe is in the donut hole ! lol

    • Snow Miser October 31, 2017 at 2:45 pm - Reply

      I think a lot of that radar is misleading anyway. Have had “snow” showing over me in Independence on the radar for at least a couple hours now, but haven’t seen a single actual snowflake outside.

      • Brad October 31, 2017 at 3:03 pm - Reply

        It’s called virga, snow is evaporating before it reaches the ground. Lol, you know that

        • Snow Miser October 31, 2017 at 3:20 pm - Reply

          It’s sorta like “Non-POOF POOF.” Snow without the snow. Images on the radar intended only to tantalize and frustrate.

          They should invent a radar that screens out that stuff. Not much fun seeing snow or rain that doesn’t actually reach the ground.

  20. Eric October 31, 2017 at 3:00 pm - Reply

    Can someone explain why the radar shows snow in my work location (Lenexa) yet I do not see any snow. Does it have something to do with the air by the clouds?

    • Brad October 31, 2017 at 3:15 pm - Reply

      Evaporating before it reaches the ground, that is why its not snowing because its falling through dry air. That is called VIrga

      • f00dl3 October 31, 2017 at 4:06 pm - Reply

        Like a virga, touching the ground for the very first time!

  21. Kai October 31, 2017 at 3:06 pm - Reply

    No snow (yet?) here in Lenexa just west of 435/87th street.

  22. Kurt October 31, 2017 at 3:29 pm - Reply

    Snowing here in St. Joseph, also reports in Platte City. Coming down fairly moderate on the south side of St. Joseph. First snowfall of 2017-2018.

  23. Dan M. October 31, 2017 at 3:40 pm - Reply

    Gary can you explain what went wrong with the forecast for today? Not necessarily yours, but the National Weather service was predicting light rain and instead we are seeing snow here in Topeka. In fact the snow is now accumulating on grassy and elevated surfaces. I did not see that mentioned in any forecast. I know a few degrees makes a difference, but this seems like a big miss. However it is great to see the snow.

  24. j-ox October 31, 2017 at 3:43 pm - Reply

    Virga…though I saw just a few snowflakes in NW Lawrence.

  25. Nick October 31, 2017 at 3:45 pm - Reply

    Hey Hey! Octosnow!!!!!!! YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!

  26. Rickmckc October 31, 2017 at 5:24 pm - Reply

    Who else predicted the first snowflakes to be today? (pats self on back)

    And yes I know someone saw flakes out in the sticks last week. But still. I am happy.

  27. Alex Pickman October 31, 2017 at 5:25 pm - Reply

    First snowfall of the season here in Stewartsville, MO just east of Stj. Moderate snowfall at times. Heavy dusting on the everything but the pavement. Made my first snowball of the season and built a 1 foot tall snowman ⛄️ From the snow on my deck rails haha. Perfect Halloween

    • Alex Pickman October 31, 2017 at 5:26 pm - Reply

      Accumulation-wise…0.25” of snow at my house. In the books!!

  28. Michael Garner October 31, 2017 at 6:06 pm - Reply

    Accumulated on the tree branches and plants…SO COOL! Maybe just maybe this will be a normal winter for snow!!!

  29. Snow Miser October 31, 2017 at 7:15 pm - Reply

    I got nothin; 🙁

    • Richard October 31, 2017 at 7:25 pm - Reply

      Me either snow miser.
      Whats your locale ?

  30. Richard October 31, 2017 at 7:24 pm - Reply

    So 45-50 days from now another snowfall ? Gary do you have any idea yet of cycle length ?

  31. stl78 October 31, 2017 at 7:48 pm - Reply

    Too early richard

  32. Bill in Lawrence October 31, 2017 at 8:10 pm - Reply


    Happy Halloween to you sir and to all the 20/20 Bloggers; hope everyone is having a great day!!

    Thsi has been a very intersting October indeed here in Washington Creek Valley. We haver had close to 4.5 inches of rain; one rain that actually flooded in some areas and filled the pond:-). We have had one frost and 3 freezes and one day that the high did not get out of the 30’s and one that stayed in the 40’s and 7 out of 10 days with a north wind. We have had a few days in the 80’s and yes….we saw our first few snow flakes of the season. Compared to the past 2 Octobers, this has been a blockbuster of a month weather wise!!

    I know that the next 7-12 days look pretty tame accept for a few overall dry cold fronts; that we will flirt with 70 on Sunday and that we are only about maybe 40% through this new LRC. Finally, that there are for sure some signs of caution in this pattern but this month has been pretty fun and it did show some players that could make for some interesting weather in cycles 2 and 3. I have to admit though that while I love snow and have been kind of obsessed with it since I was a kid, now that I have a leaky pond that I can’t fix yet, I am more concerned with spring and summer rains. Hangs head in shame….

    All that said, it will for sure be interesting to see how this pattern finishes out in the coming weeks.

    Have a great night everyone..

    Bill in Washington Creek Valley in Lawrence

  33. Alex Pickman October 31, 2017 at 8:10 pm - Reply

    Also I definitely built a small snowman today 😂❄️⛄️🤷🏻‍♂️

    • Richard October 31, 2017 at 10:13 pm - Reply

      There were arrows on the snowman pic that went to a big house with porch. And also went to your facebook page.
      Not sure you meant to do that

      • Alex Pickman November 1, 2017 at 12:03 am - Reply

        Hmm probably a picture I posted on my page of my house with the snow falling. It was a link to a picture I uploaded on my Facebook page though, so I could see how it would take you to that other picture too. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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