Mostly Paltry Rainfall

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Mostly Paltry Rainfall

Good Tuesday bloggers,

Well, the rain played out pretty much how we thought. There were many locations that received under 0.50″ of rain. A few locations in KC saw 1″ to 2″ of rain. Northern Missouri, did see more amounts in the 1″-2″ range. The St. Joseph area saw 2″ to 4″ of rain!

Look at this photo of a rain gauge in St. Joseph. Thank you Jay Archer. That’s exciting!

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Here are some radar estimated rainfall totals from around the area. Remember, your rain gauge may read different as these are radar estimates.

Northern Missouri was the big winner for sure, but 5-10 more of these events is needed to end the drought and there are zero in the forecast.

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Locations south of I-70 did not see much either with amounts in the 0.10″ to 0.80″ range. There was a 1″ to 3″ pocket southwest of Ottawa.

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Rainfall in the Kansas City area was mostly around 0.25″ to 0.50″. There were some pockets that saw less than 0.10″ and a few lucky locations received 1″ to 2″.

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Yes, we need much more rain as mostly we just had a piddly event.

The weather pattern the next 5-7 days does not support much rain around here. Now, there may be isolated T-Storms Wednesday with a weak system and Friday with a weak front. But, most rainfall the next 7 days will occur from Oklahoma/Texas east to the southeast USA and north to the Tennessee Valley and eastern Midwest. Temperatures around here will be a bit above average with highs mostly around 90° the next 7 days.

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There is a a front and possible system towards the middle and end of next week that have potential to bring some rain, but we shall see.

Have a great night.

Jeff Penner

2018-08-08T17:34:18+00:00August 7th, 2018|General|25 Comments

25 Comments

  1. George August 7, 2018 at 5:46 pm - Reply

    Got just under 1/4″ at my house in OP. 87th & Antioch

  2. WeathermanKumke August 7, 2018 at 5:50 pm - Reply

    .37 at 119th and K-7 in Olathe

  3. Mike August 7, 2018 at 5:55 pm - Reply

    Active Pacific Ocean “https://www.yahoo.com/gma/hurricane-hector-bearing-down-hawaii-may-skirt-south-132909756–abc-news-topstories.html”

  4. Michael Garner August 7, 2018 at 5:58 pm - Reply

    For me this is the “fun”part of summer. Since mid July it hasn’t been too bad, but so close to September makes me think it’s about to get cooler and then I look at the 7 day forecast and you I have to remind myself it’s only early August!

  5. KirksvilleDave August 7, 2018 at 8:38 pm - Reply

    .41” in Kirksville.

  6. Michael August 8, 2018 at 8:07 am - Reply

    I recorded a .55″ up here in Maryville. Very spotty, just ten miles north of town had 21/2″ of rain. We need way more! Can’t wait till the new LRC pattern! Have a great “Hump Day” bloggers!
    Michael

  7. Urbanity August 8, 2018 at 8:20 am - Reply

    The evidence is mounting, apologies accepted anytime.

    Environ. Res. Lett. 13 (2018) 084007

    http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aad245/pdf

    “The alteration of precipitation patterns is caused by changes in horizontal wind divergence and in vertical velocity. Due to the reduced speed over the wind farm area, patterns of convergence upstream (offshore) and divergence downstream (inland) of the wind farms are formed, with consequent enhanced vertical motion upstream and reduced vertical motion downstream. As the turbines inhibit vertical upward movement of warm air downstream of the offshore wind farms (i.e. along the coast and even further inland), convection is partially offset and precipitation is therefore reduced”

    • Three7 August 8, 2018 at 8:48 am - Reply

      This is an article about the impacts of wind farms in Europe. Take it for what it’s worth.

      “The model predicted that, even with the projected increase in European wind turbines by 2020, the effects on daily temperature and rainfall would be minimal. The turbines would produce a slight current of air flow moving clockwise over Europe, but its influence on weather would be undetectable for most of the year.”

      https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/myth-debunked-wind-farms-dont-alter-climate-180949701/

    • REAL HUMEDUDE August 8, 2018 at 8:49 am - Reply

      Keith!
      You may have a point, but you have had tons of rain this year out by Salina and I can’t see any identifiable holes in the precip shield that would indicate any regular disruption of rainfall in a particular spot. Need more data to make a intelligent decision. Is your solution to burn more coal? Isn’t that proven to be a bad choice as well?

      • Urbanity August 8, 2018 at 9:33 am - Reply

        Hume, where I live it’s as dry as a popcorn fart, I don’t know where the drought monitor is getting it’s readings but we haven’t had any rain. The storms either stall to our west or get shifted south quickly as they move through the wind farm, it’s really something to see. I have snap shots of the 24 hour precip totals for each rain event and we are continually in the dry wedge, even the noaa estimated totals are way off from actual. If you are west of Russell then yes it has been raining often.

        I’m not going to get into a debate. It is what it is, and the article I posted is one of the first serious discussions about the true impact of wind turbines, Hurricane Harvey brought this discussion about. Surely you understand that the truth is hidden when the discussion involves green energy and global warming.

        Again, I am officially off this board, just wanted to post an article that counters you special scientists on this blog. Take care.

      • Urbanity August 8, 2018 at 9:43 am - Reply

        It should also be noted that radar disruption from wind farms corrupts radar reporting data, it’s almost useless to rely on radar estimates on both precipitation and the severity of the storm in and around a wind farm.

        • REAL HUMEDUDE August 8, 2018 at 11:21 am - Reply

          Good point, I never really thought about the radar data being corrupted/disrupted. It’s a possibility for sure. I think it needs to be closely studied by nonbiased objective observers. Compare radar data to actual ground data, study relationships of disrupting vertically rising air currents. We do need some closer investigation

      • NoBeachHere August 8, 2018 at 9:57 am - Reply

        Not beating the coal drum or you Real Hume but when there is an equitable solution that’s affordable to build then affordable to sell and affordable for consumers, I’m all for it. The idea that wind farms and solar can 100% replace coal is not an affordable or efficient.
        I don’t think there has been enough studies, for a long period of time, done to determine if and or what effects wind and solar farms do to the weather. Even on a micro scale. Bottom line is who is going or willing to pay for inefficient solar and somewhat unreliable wind power production?
        If we can constantly refer to the “Tonganoxie Slit” as
        a weather effect, then why cannot wind farms be considered as well, regardless of the micro scale that it may or may not be?

  8. Farmermike August 8, 2018 at 9:40 am - Reply

    I live north of salina — just a few miles from the small wind farm in cloud county
    Last year was one of the wettest summers for my farm in a long time
    Now then this summer totally opposite, have missed all the good rains
    oh yea its rained but only .20″-.30″ maybe .50″ on the big storms.
    in other words mighty dry here
    I have seen major droughts before the wind towers were put up and
    I have seen major rains after they were here
    do they really impact the weather – who knows
    just my opinion

    • Urbanity August 8, 2018 at 9:52 am - Reply

      I can’t say this enough Farmermike, the relationship of precip and wind farms is determined by the wind energy and location you are relative to the oncoming systems and the upper air pattern. It takes pages and pages to explain so I cannot do it here. In simplest terms, the weather pattern will ultimately dictate whether or not you receive rain, but the amount and timing of the rain is influenced so that you will probably experience more extremes in the precipitation patters…more flooding rain when not needed and more extending dry periods when rain is needed.

  9. Tim August 8, 2018 at 1:30 pm - Reply

    Not something I would have thought would have legitimate effects on weather. But appears there are a lot of credible sources that show the effect of wind farms on weather reporting– including Doppler radar:

    https://www.weather.gov/mkx/windfarm

  10. Tim August 8, 2018 at 1:44 pm - Reply

    Hmm.. Atlantic Ocean has been so quiet over the past 3-4 weeks, looks like the National Hurricane Center had to try inflating the storm numbers with Debbie. Up until 2002 these subtropical storms did not even receive a name. They have also repeatedly changed what constitutes a subtropical storm.

    https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/subtropical.asp

    As well, the NHC used to never name or number a storm based off Dvorak technique T numbers from satellites if the system/invest/subtrop momentarily flared up or if it was immediately heading into hostile conditions. Should really only be 2 true systems this year so far.

    • JoeK August 8, 2018 at 4:30 pm - Reply

      The Atlantic is quiet as a result of the Sahara desert distributing dust/sand into the atmosphere. I believe it has impacted the pattern and cycle and will continue to do so. It may end up being a very quiet hurricane season or a late start. As for the system expected to cycle through around the first of September, I am doubtful it will verify now.

  11. Snow Miser August 8, 2018 at 2:12 pm - Reply

    If indeed wind farms effect precipitation … maybe they could use them to some advantage! Imagine wind turbines on wheels, you can move them around to anywhere you want, and direct rain to wherever it is needed most! :-/

  12. Jason August 8, 2018 at 2:25 pm - Reply

    1.25″ just South of Lawrence. Most we have had in a long time.

  13. Richard August 8, 2018 at 2:58 pm - Reply

    NWS
    “The latest 8-14 outlooks from the Climate Prediction Center. Warm conditions are forecast to persist through the next 2 weeks, however there’s some hope that we’ll receive some beneficial rainfall.”

  14. Richard August 8, 2018 at 3:49 pm - Reply

    NWS
    “The latest 8-14 outlooks from the Climate Prediction Center. Warm conditions are forecast to persist through the next 2 weeks, however there’s some hope that we’ll receive some beneficial rainfall.”

  15. Richard August 8, 2018 at 3:50 pm - Reply

    Sorry for the double post.
    It was not here so posted again. Now both are here !

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