Tragedy At Table Rock Lake

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Good morning bloggers,

There was a boat tragedy, with at least 13 people dead and this count is likely going to go up as people are still missing, at Table Rock Lake near Branson, MO yesterday evening.  The system we saw developing over central Kansas turned southeast and tracked right over Table Rock by evening. There should have been no way that any boats were on that lake with this system approaching. I have been down there the past few years, and I understand how, once you are out on the lake, there is very little time to come back to dock once you are out there and a storm is approaching.  This storm was moving fast, but there was warning and it is a tragedy that could have been prevented if the weather conditions were being seriously monitored. It is rare to have thunderstorms moving 40 mph in July, and this unfortunate storm created the conditions for people to lose their lives.

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After I arrived at work yesterday, I saw this little system spinning over central Kansas. It was just east of Salina and thunderstorms organized around this and started producing 80 mph winds. The SPC enhanced the risk and it turned southeast directly over Table Rock Lake.

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The captain of that boat likely did not have a lot of time to make a wise decision.  Unfortunately this moved fast and created almost impossible conditions to get back to the shore. The video from the eye witness says it all as we can see the duck boat with 31 passengers on board in trouble and going over.  Very, very sad.

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Here are the storm reports from yesterday. There were 33 tornado reports all clustered over Iowa. I am sure it will end up being around 15 or so tornadoes, but a July outbreak of severe weather none the less.  Here are two of the tornadoes from two separate updrafts in this rare multi-cell severe thunderstorm near Altoona, IA.

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And, look at todays outlook:

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There is a moderate risk of severe weather over the Tennessee Valley in this active July weather pattern. Let’s hope there are no more disasters today.

Incredibly Accurate Forecast Made 12-Weeks Ago For This Week.  This is from the 1-Weather App using the LRC:

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A 12-Week Forecast was provided for this bride and the wedding is tomorrow. The LRC provided the insight and this forecast was made without a computer model. Think about that!  And, we hope that Matt & Joell have a great wedding.

Have a great day and thank you for sharing in this weather experience featuring Weather 2020 and the LRC. Go over to the Weather2020 blog to join in the conversation or read everyones comments.

Gary

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Me

The LRC is a piece of crap just the same as most models and forecasts these days. Things are happening that apparently we can’t measure or see.

JoeK
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JoeK

I guess it is true, you just can’t fix stupid

Nick
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Nick

the duck boat thing is sad to have happened, I too think that there were mistakes made and the details will come with time, for now though it goes to show how fragile life is and how sometimes we need to take life day by day. An unexpected illnes has hit a close family member or mine this past June and it really makes you take a second look at things. Sadly I didn’t feel the quake here in St. Joe, but I did feel the 5.8 oklahoma quake a while back up here, so feeling a quake(small one) is… Read more »

Kurt
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Kurt

2.6 magnitude earthquake in St Joseph at 5:46 pm today. Can’t get it to rain, but we have a fault line

Richard
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Richard

JoeK and everyone What I said “Gary But right out of the gate, for you to go into shaming the boat operators and captain, thats not cool.” I did not say nobody is to blame. I just did not see the reason for Gary to point it out in his writeup. But that was just my opinion. And I have been duly raked over the coals for it. OF COURSE somebody is to blame. There will be, and should be, HELL TO PAY, to whoever green lighted those boats to be out on the water with thunderstorm watch being issued… Read more »

JoeK
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JoeK

Richard, You are entitled to your opinion, but I think you missed my point as well as numerous others on here that agreed that nowhere in Gary’s post did he shame anybody. He stated the facts. As individuals, every time we operate a vehicle, it is incumbent on the operator to act responsibly. A boat is no different and possibly even more dangerous. There are so many dangers on the water and one of the most critical dangers is the weather. Any person that is a seasoned boater knows the weather can change in an instant and one must be… Read more »

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

Agreed, he didn’t shame. Sometimes Richards gets a little self righteous indignation, and even when it doesn’t fit he still feels the need to jam it in there. LoL

Jason
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Jason

Regarding the table rock incident it’s the pilot/captains responsibility to into account all factors in the safe operation of a “vessel”. It’s easy for us to say “we saw it heading that way” but did he? Was there a marine radio on board which all have wx band on them? He may have not been able to carry his personal phone while “on warch” to check radar. Had he survived and held a uscg licence he would have lost it and found himself in court reguardless. Uscg law says it’s the captains responsibility to take into account all factors when… Read more »

KS Jones
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KS Jones

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dead-missouri-duck-boat-accident/story?id=56704420

A survivor of the tragedy, who lost nine of her family members in the accident, says the captain of the boat told her family not to worry about life jackets, Fox affiliate WXIN reported.

“My husband would want me to say this – he would want the world to know that on this boat we were on, the captain had told us ‘don’t worry about grabbing the life jackets – you won’t need them’ so nobody grabbed them as we listened to the captain as he told us to stay seated,” Tia Coleman said.

f00dl3
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f00dl3

http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?parms=local-SW_Missouri-02-200-0-100-2&checked=map&colorbars=

^ you can see the morning activity throw out the outflow that the squal line rode along.

NoBeachHere
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NoBeachHere

Just a small point here. Point out a feature in an approaching cloud/clouds or perhaps a system. Specifically state “ look at that, I wonder if that’s a storm or just rain”. Then watch their response. Some will do nothing, some will only look at a weather app forecast and say,”there is xx% percent chance of rain” and do nothing else. A lot of folks don’t even look at radar, they only look at forecast. Look at a dang radar, live radar, know your location and which way it’s moving. Especially when out on water or camping, if you have… Read more »

f00dl3
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f00dl3

And on the other hand with the way models have been this year on Thursday morning I was gonna go running at 4:15 AM but when I woke up look at the radar there were storms just where the models said they would be in NE KS diving from Nebraska. They were not organized, but several models showed them picking up strength at KC. I opted to wait until 6:30 AM to start running because of this, when it became obvious they were not going to make it to the SW side of the metro before the heat set in.… Read more »

Blue Flash
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Blue Flash

Ride the Ducks operated in Branson for 40 years without a single incident. I’m sick of hearing how dangerous the ducks were. Any boat could be swamped in the kinds of rough seas they encountered. Of course they should not have taken the risk with a storm approaching. It will be interesting to see how the communications failed. I am sure in 40 years there were dozens of similar circumstances that were handled properly. I suspect this will bankrupt the company. Close to 300,000 excursions made safely, but this is the kind of attraction that will be remembered by the… Read more »

Tdogg
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Tdogg

LRC

Lonely
Real Humey/Richard/Robert Racy
Complain

REAL HUMEDUDE
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REAL HUMEDUDE

Textbook drought showers ….

Jordan
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Jordan

Of course they look like they’re turning into something substantial just a county or two southeast of your farm lol.

Jordan
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Jordan

I guess that’s a little further than a county or two, but still.

f00dl3
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f00dl3

Should not have happened. Not in 2018, when we have text alerts on our phones, cell phones, there is no reason in hell why the company couldn’t have communicated a “do not go in the water” message to all their boats in the field. God knows how much GPS tracking Fedex, UPS, and many corporation company cars have in them less how much you are being tracked in a Rental car. I’m sure they have some sort of way to do this they just didn’t want to because they didn’t want to loose the money.

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

mabye it was already in the water and a ways off when the imminent storms formed. I read that the tour lasts 90 minutes. I know emotionally we want to rip anyone who might be responsible, but lets let the investigation happen before we start assigning blame. It’s the fair thing to do.

f00dl3
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f00dl3

The tour does last a long time but part of it is drive time. When I went on it back when I was younger living w/ my parents I remember they do a sight-seeing tour of things down the way, attractions. It’s about a 30 minute drive just to hop in the water. The time you are in the water is 15-25 minutes tops if my memory is right. They had plenty of time to tell the operators to stand tight or even have the passengers take a break and seek shelter if weather really became nasty. Given that someone… Read more »

KS Jones
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KS Jones

https://mobile.twitter.com/tonyburkhart/status/1020158715616550912/video/1
We saw high winds + bad weather roll in, so I decided to get a refund and leave with my wife. Headed out, countless first responders + emergency vehicles were going in #Branson to help with the #DuckBoat incident. Branson Belle crew helped toss life preservers to those overboard. pic.twitter.com/71H61ir0Gy

Getmbuck
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Getmbuck

Lawsuits are coming regardless via civil trial and possible criminal trial for all onboard and company decision makers. Schlitterbahn managers and owners are being crucified over one death in KCK. Consistent reports of water entry time was well after STW issued. No excuses

Jon Behle
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My question for anyone is why are the boats out there period if there is lightning around.. Let alone severe thunderstorms?

Richard
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Richard

I have never been on the Duck boats. I hear that it is a 1 1/2 hr tour on land and water. The water being the last part of the tour, to go back to the docks. A road/ramp leads to the water. No turning back once on that road to go to ramp. They got in water to go back to docks just before warning was issued. But yeah, the company/operators should not have allowed any boats to be on water, or on the tour for that matter, since a watch had been issued hours before. There have been… Read more »

sierravista
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sierravista

News said this: The boat’s captain survived, but its driver did not, according to Sheriff Rader.

Trevor
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Trevor

Hume

You think we may get storms again, hoping the Ottawa area can get some rain can see my beans are really starting to show stress. Lots of corn already have been chopped

REAL HUMEDUDE
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REAL HUMEDUDE

It’s developing as we speak just NW of Topeka, hopefully targeting your area and mine. 3k NAM and HRRR are on board. We sure need it SW and south of the metro! Beans are in a sorry shape, they will be next on the chopping block if rain doesn’t materialize. If we can squeak by till next weekend there is a Good Looking system showing up then, maybe it poofs who knows

Trevor
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Trevor

Hoping it continues to build up. Keep thinking just enough to get us by till a good rain but time is starting to run out. Not holding my breath today seen this too many times to get my hopes up

KS Jones
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KS Jones

Not much to it– we got a light rain for five minutes awhile ago as some of the spotty system passed over. We could get more sprinkles, but I’m not expecting more than that. The best part is, it is 76° & cloudy.

Jordan
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Jordan

So, am I going to get missed to the north, south, east, or west this time? lol

Trevor
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Trevor

Looks like SW, not much there anyways unless it builds might settle the dust

REAL HUMEDUDE
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REAL HUMEDUDE

We are entering peak heating period so we are in best time of day to maximize this little disturbance. Any kind of rain drop beats no rain drops

Jordan
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Jordan

This little disturbance is drifting slightly to the east, and it looks like the energy feeding it in Nebraska is still popping stuff up. I might get a nice soaker hose .2″-.3″ if it manages to make it over me.

Richard
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Richard

My point was that there will be plenty of shaming and blaming.
Plenty of finger pointing. Plenty of investigations. Plenty of lawsuits.
People are dead. Children. The boat is 80 feet down at the bottom.
The canopies are the problem. No way to escape if boat takes on water.
It was a like a raging ocean. The winds came up suddenly, like they did here.
My thoughts and prayers are with those families.

Yes, the company should be held liable. Not the captain. He works for the company.
If he is told to be out there he goes,

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

Did the captain live? Isn’t he supposed to be the last one off? I thought the captain was supposed to go down with his ship if everyone hasn’t been evacuated?

TDogg
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TDogg

I heard on the radio the captain did not make it.

Real Humedude
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Real Humedude

NO, absolutely not. You put your foot down as captain and say firmly, “HELL NO”. The captain is who has the final word. That boat was death trap from conception, and anybody with a brain could see a storm was brewing. Not just a random pop up, a major squall line in fact. Winds didn’t come from no where, they are being warned about from every weather outlet you can think of. The captain should be held accountable, as well as the owner. Not involuntary ether, they made a conscious decision to go out there. Just sickening

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

If its true that there was plenty of notice and the if the captain was notified of the incoming severe weather and didn’t try to make it back, then it’s on him. If that’s not the case, i.e. he tried to get back but couldn’t get back in time, then the company is liable in all kinds of ways.

Hockeynut69
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I agree Hume, they did have plenty of notice, companies like that should be monitoring the weather conditions. This storm formed up in Kansas and it was a few hours before it made it’s way to Table Rock. When in Kansas it had a history of 60-80mph winds. Aside from that how many people die each year due to lightning? No reason they should have been on water with a large storm heading their way. This was totally avoidable and should not have happened. Someone probably thought they would be in and out of the lake prior to the storm… Read more »

JoeK
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JoeK

“if the captain is told to go out there he does” WHAT, the CAPTAIN of any ship has the final say. The winds didn’t come up all of a sudden, we have this thing called technology, the threat of storms was evident long before they arrived.

LYITC41
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LYITC41

Reminiscent of the Whippoorwill tragedy in June ’78 down at Pomona. That blew up pretty much w/o warning but this yesterday, everyone has radar today and that line was moving toward them all afternoon. to be caught out there is inexcusable so you’re wrong Richard. The litigation has probably already started.

JoeK
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JoeK

LYITC41,

10 thumbs up! Spot on

sierravista
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sierravista

True comments from Gary, Richard. The boats should not have been out there. I heard that the Captain survived, and I’m sure we will hear his explanation soon. Conditions should have been monitored! The other boats were lucky.

Real Humedude
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Real Humedude

HRRR is once again developing convection in KS that may wander in and affect our area. I know there are many that would welcome this, I’m really curious about SPC update later on as I think major instability may build once again today as we have very little debris clouds. Not as much severe weather as yesterday, but enough to get some storms kicked up. I randomly called it yesterday that that might be the most active severe weather day we had all year, and it may indeed have been just that considering the IA tornadoes. It just felt incredibly… Read more »

sierravista
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sierravista

Hmmm…shaming? “The captain of that boat likely did not have a lot of time to make a wise decision. Unfortunately this moved fast and created almost impossible conditions to get back to the shore.” Doesn’t sound like shaming to me. Terrible tragedy.

Richard
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Richard

Yes. Shaming

“There should have been no way that any boats were on that lake with this system”

“This storm was moving fast, but there was warning and it is a tragedy that could have been prevented if the weather conditions were being seriously monitored.”

There will be investigations. This will be talked about for weeks.
Meteorologists will say how/why it happened. Leave the shaming out of it

ClassyCat
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ClassyCat

And what about what he said isn’t absolutely true? It’s not even opinion. Responsible people monitor things like that, especially when you hand people depending on you. Shaming? I call that telling it like it is. Get real dude. Good grief.

JoeK
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JoeK

Classycat,

His “shaming” comment is baseless and completely stupid. We all should be use to this type of behavior and posts from Richard by now. Bottom line, any company that operates any type of tourist based business has a responsibility to monitor the weather for safety of their customers, especially one that operates on the water

ClassyCat
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ClassyCat

Said better than I did.

hoopsA1
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hoopsA1

ummmm no where in your 12 week prediction did it says anything about a severe weather outbreak. of course in the summer time there are chances for isolated thunderstorms so not sure how to grade that forecast

JoeK
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JoeK

Hoops,

Thunderstorms = the possibility of severe weather. I am taken back by your assessment of the forecast. Generally speaking, most systems during the summer have the possibility to become severe. Forecasting thunderstorms 12 weeks in advance in a specific area and having that forecast verify is pretty amazing.

Richard
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Richard

Gary
Finally, a longer blog writeup.
But right out of the gate, for you to go into shaming the boat operators and captain, thats not cool.
We all know you go down there. So do thouusands of otherpeople.
That terrible event is all over the news and online.
Pat yourself on the back for forecasting that storm. But leave the shaming out if it.

Real Humedude
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Real Humedude

Richard….that captain should be shamed. What an moron, he cost all those people their lives. The storm was headed their way for hours, no reason they should have even considered going out with that approaching. I would go further than shame, if the captain survived I would want him tried for 17 counts of voluntary manslaughter as he had a chance to monitor the weather but he failed to do so. When you are a captain you are responsible for every life on your boat, they took their profit incentive over the safety of their passengers. I am really heated… Read more »

Richard
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Richard

There were more boats out there.
There was another Duck boat. It made it back safely

REAL HUMEDUDE
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REAL HUMEDUDE

so what, there’s more idiots out there in the storm so that makes it ok?
It’s even worse they could have killed those people too! The captain and company deserve to have every bit of shame and blame put squarely on their shoulders. Accidents happen, but this was gross negligence to ignore a Severe thunderstorm warning in a POS boat like they had

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

I think we need to see the results of the investigation before you go off attacking the captain. Mabye it’s his fault, mabye now. We don’t know what he knew or when he knew it regarding the incoming storms. Overall liability does belong to the company for sure though….no questions about that,

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

Sounds like that Severe Thunderstorm came up really fast, and those boats are really slow. I doubt the captain gets blame for this, but the company will likely get the holy hell sued out of them. Perhaps in the future, these slow heavy boats can’t go out if we are under a Severe T-storm Watch if they are unable to escape a fast incoming severe storm before it hits. The only way I’d blame the captain is if he was told the storm is incoming and he didn’t try to get back to dock. He would also get blame of… Read more »

Heat Miser
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Heat Miser

I don’t think he shamed anyone…esp the captain. He said it came on him fast and he likely didn’t have enough time to get them to safety.

JoeK
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JoeK

Okay Richard, it is time you are called out for your bogus BS. First, I don’t see where Gary shamed anybody, he pointed out the facts and they are pretty clear. I spend a lot of time on the water and ALWAYS monitor the weather. This Captain and this company should have a system in place to monitor the weather. Period! You are wrong and your assessment is WRONG

Richard
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Richard

JoeK
What I said
“But right out of the gate, for you to go into shaming the boat operators and captain, thats not cool.”
I did not say nobody is to blame. I just did not see the reason for Gary to point it out in his writeup.
But that was just my opinion. And I have been duly raked over the coals for it.

OF COURSE somebody is to blame. There will be, and should be, HELL TO PAY, to whoever green lighted those boats to be out on the water with thunderstorm watch being issued hours before.