Fog and Fall Back and 90° Weather

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Fog and Fall Back and 90° Weather

Good Saturday bloggers,

We are in a cloudy, but mostly dry weather pattern across the middle part of the USA. There will be quite a temperature difference in the Plains this weekend, but the main rain will occur from the Mississippi River and points to the east.

Remember to fall back tonight before you hit the hay. This is the only 49 hour weekend of the year, so enjoy it.


Here are the sunrise and sunset times for the weekend and you can see the sun will be setting in the five o’clock hour Sunday. The sun will rise before 7 am, so next week most of us will not have to head to work and school in the dark.


Now, let’s get into the weather and look at this weather pattern.

There is a trough near the west coast bringing some needed moisture to northern California and Oregon. This makes the flow across the USA from west-southwest to east-northeast which means we do not have any big cold/Arctic blasts in the forecast and no big storm systems.


There is a warm front lying across Oklahoma and Arkansas and it now looks like it will move north, but not far enough to bring KC warmer air.  It may bring the I-70 corridor fog Sunday morning.


There is quite a zone of fog from southeast Colorado to southern Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and southern Missouri along and north of the warm front. So, when the warm front nears I-70 tonight and Sunday morning the fog zone may shift north into our area.


SATURDAY: Our area will be cloudy and cool with highs stuck in the 50s. 57° may be a bit optimistic and will only be achieved if we see a peek of sun. Highs will come close to 90° in north Texas. Wait until you see the high for Kickoff of the Chiefs-Dallas game.


SUNDAY MORNING: A surface low will be found in eastern Kansas. The warm front will be near, but likely south of I-70. So, this puts our region in a zone where fog may be thick along with some drizzle and temperatures around 50°. Columbia to St. Louis will be 65° to 70° in the morning on the 5th of November!


SUNDAY AFTERNOON: We will be in the 50s as colder air heads south.  St. Louis to Springfield will be near 80° with a chance of T-Storms.  Dallas will be around 90° for the big game! Maybe the roof will be closed.  Wow!


SUNDAY NIGHT: The wind will be coming from the north at 10-20 mph ushering in colder air. Early next week will see many clouds with highs mostly in the 40s and lows in the 20s and 30s.  There is a storm system to watch for Tuesday into Wednesday that could bring some light rain, but the chance is rather low. Basically, the next 5-7 days will be dry with near to below average temperatures as we have no big storm systems to monitor.


If you have leaves all over your yard this will be a decent weekend to gather them up as there will be little wind and no big rain. It will be a bit cool and there will be some mist or drizzle from time to time. The wind will pick up from the north Sunday afternoon, so today is the best day to get this round of leaves up.


Have a great weekend,


2017-11-06T07:48:04+00:00November 4th, 2017|General|20 Comments


  1. Richard November 4, 2017 at 10:06 am - Reply

    Thanks Jeff

    But according to KState extension, don’t gather the leaves, mow them.

    How are we going to see any chance of snow without precip events so far in this new pattern ?

    • Anonymous November 4, 2017 at 11:29 am - Reply

      It’ll be fine…there have been plenty of rain systems that have come thru and there will be more. Try to focus on’s old.

      • Richard November 4, 2017 at 3:41 pm - Reply

        No name

        Ignore me then. Move on.

        • Anonymous November 4, 2017 at 5:17 pm - Reply

          I did, long ago. Take your own advice mabye?

  2. Brad November 4, 2017 at 11:32 am - Reply

    New Canadian run just came out and it looks interesting for next weekend, (should the Low shift south) we might be in a snowstorm. however GFS is not picking that up just yet but something to monitor closely

  3. MMike November 4, 2017 at 12:00 pm - Reply

    “How are we going to see any chance of snow without precip events so far in this new pattern”

    short term memory? Since October 1st, eastern KS and western MO are above average on moisture in the last 4-5 weeks(the start of the new LRC pattern) There has been plenty of features/storms so far, will they pan out over the winter we’ll see..much more action this fall then last fall. WE ARE ABOVE AVERAGE ON MOISTURE. We have been colder this fall too..

    NO Storms??? Just because it doesn’t rain every other day doesn’t mean there are no storms. Remember when you said spring and summer for this year was going to be a scorcher with no rain based off of last falls pattern, didn’t happen. We may very well have no snow this winter, but, the it’s WAY early to say nothing will happen. Winter is 7 weeks away. It’s Fall for crying out loud!

    Go Chiefs….stop the the run!! Get DJ off the field, he has done nothing all year long.

    • Richard November 4, 2017 at 4:00 pm - Reply


      Move on. IGNORE ME !
      I recall Gary saying the same. Didn’t happen. And I admitted I was wrong.
      Rain systems since Oct 1 ? Yep, Must be that short term memory loss. Of which you have no problems with.
      That ONE sentence of mine above was not put there for an argument. I do have memory problems.
      I hope you can grow old without any issues.

    • JoeK November 4, 2017 at 10:25 pm - Reply

      Mike, AGREED 😀 We are above average on moisture and has been an active first portion of the new LRC. I am optimistic about the new LRC and believe we will return to a more normal winter. It has been far from boring and dry

  4. NoBeachHere November 4, 2017 at 1:42 pm - Reply

    1. I wish the time would stay the same, stay on spring, summer, early fall time
    2. I could use some sunshine
    3. Mow the leaves in
    4. Read up on the current Artic Ice Pack. Many sites to read from with various opinions.

    • Richard November 4, 2017 at 3:38 pm - Reply

      Agree on with you on all

  5. Blue Flash November 4, 2017 at 2:51 pm - Reply

    There’s quite an article in Weather Underground today: It’s the “climate science special report,” and it concludes (not surprisingly) that virtually all global warming since the 1950’s has been caused by human activity. In fact, it states that Earth might have cooled slightly during this period if not for human impacts.

    • Richard November 4, 2017 at 3:37 pm - Reply


  6. f00dl3 November 4, 2017 at 3:27 pm - Reply

    Notice that article is under a “Cat6” URL. A global warming study publushed under a URL implying there should be a new category 6 for hurricanes.

  7. KS Jones November 4, 2017 at 3:50 pm - Reply

    I hope we don’t get caught in a weather cycle like the winter of 2013-14 when we were barely north of the jet stream for several weeks and had 45 MPH winds with below zero temperatures. That was brutal, and propane prices spiked from $1/gallon to $5/gallon (mostly due to price gouging).

  8. BSMike November 4, 2017 at 8:08 pm - Reply

    Let’s Go Cowboys zeeeeeeeeeeke

    • rred95 November 5, 2017 at 7:14 am - Reply

      You giving a shout out to Zeeeke for his running abilities or his ability to abuse women?

  9. stl78 November 5, 2017 at 6:32 am - Reply

    Keep your eye on the 12th

  10. Bill in Lawrence November 5, 2017 at 7:12 am - Reply

    Gary and Jeff:

    Happy Sunday to both of you and to all of the Weather 20/20 Bloggers!!!!

    Looking at the surface charts, it appears that the front is through Salina and is on Manhattan’s door step. Will be interesting to follow it this morning!!

    This set up the past 48 hours is interesting to me; this is the second time in this forming LRC that we have stayed north of the warm front and in the colder/cooler air. Could this maybe be a freezing drizzle set up in the winter or even early spring? Maybe we have one evening of freezing drizzle and then we warm into the middle 30’s and stay there until the front comes through? Also will be interesting in the spring and early summer with a warm front meandering around the area for 2-3 days. We will for sure go into the warm sector by then but maybe some heavy rains as it moves back and forth. Whatever the case, I think these past 10-11 days are an interesting phase for this LRC overall. Some very interesting players for all the seasons.

    Also, if the current AO forecast is it all correct, the AO is beginning a track into negative territory. Of course, that forecast has changed everyday so who knows. Could be something to watch.

    I’m sticking with my 13-15 inches for Lawrence with all of that coming from dinking and dunking down the field. However, I am pretty excited about this LRC for the winter. I just think there are some players to provide some excitement here and there. Nothing 2012-2013 or 2013-2014 like but some excitement. I am fully convinced this is going to be an above average winter for shadow snow storms on the models.

    As always, these are the musings of a history teacher…and one just in high school for that matter…so take all these with a huge grain of salt!!

    Have a great day everyone

    Bill in Washington Creek Valley in Lawrence

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